For a friend. She's at her wits end. Her daughter will be 4 soon and refuses to use a potty or the toilet. She's suppose to go to school in Sept but you have to be toilet trained. Does anyone have any advice tips or links I can give to her? Her daughter will pee a pull up or underwear and just not care.

maybe Audrey will be ready at 1 to potty train she did the stickers but her daughter would let out a trickle then shed get a sticker then shed pee herself. She's beinf very stubborn about it ill tell her the every 20 mins on the potty because I don't think she puts her on that often maybe every hour

I'm clearly not the one to ask about this -- Dave is almost 3 1/2 and is hit or miss with the potty at best. When we're home he runs around mostly in underwear with no pants, he seems to have the least amount of misses that way, but he almost always pees a little in his diaper before he realizes it. I tried everything -- stickers (worked for about a day), toys (small dollar store stuff taht he got for getting to the potty in time - this worked for a while, but when the toys ran out he back slid within a  couple of weeks.) Now we're doing M&Ms -- he gets one if his pants are a little wet, two if he gets all the way there, and three for poop, no matter what happens with the pee that time. He usually does the best with poop oddly enough. The funny part about it is that you wouldn't believe the number of times I don't mention the m&Ms and he forgets about them too. My ped suggested making him wipe to get involved in the process and also making him change his own pants every time they get wet. Her theory was that he would get sick of changing his clothes and realize it's easier to get to the potty. This didn't work with Dave - he put his foot down and refuses to dress himself at all, not that he ever really did. I've also heard of making the child shower or bathe everytime they wet - more of an interruption than stopping to use the potty would be. This seems a bit extreme to me, but talk to me in 6 months, maybe I'll be doing it myself. LOL. Tell her good luck!!

He outsmarted the timer! haha!
I think I just kinda resigned myself to the fact that if it didn't work in September during the time I had set for ourselves that I would simply wait til he was 4 and try again. I didn't want to but I couldn't deal with that stress and a new baby. But then again I wasn't trying to get him into school either. She has plenty of time between now and fall though.
Where's Joell? Sethy was a late bloomer on the potty too. She may have some good tips.